dzhokhar tsarnaev, age 19, three federal public defenders have been assigned to defend him including a woman who defended everyone from drug violations to someone who tried to blow up the pentagon. she is a former public defender who attempted to defend the richard reid in december 2001. good morning to you from chap hell -- chapel hill, north carolina. good morning to you. you who difficult is it to defend this man? >> it is extremely difficult, bill, given the intense media attention and public scrutiny and the fact that miriam conrad's number one priority will be saving her client's life as he likely faces the death penalty. bill: conrad the lead public defender, i take it, is that right? >> yes. she is the head of the federal defender office in boston and she will, i imagine, be directing the defense in this case. bill: i see. tamara, it is public possible he is cooperating. it is possible he is i think ising based on the condition that he is in which is said to be fair at the moment? >> yes it is possible. and that could enable miriam and her colleagues to negotiate something le